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Sunday, April 27, 2008
My last post on TX2 can be found here:
There are two piece of amazing news tonight.
First, XYQ just blow away its old record. On today, 4/27/2008, it had a new PCU of 2.08 million. Its last PCU record occured on 4/6/2008 and with the old record of 1.67 million. The following is the link to the official announcement:
This is just amazing. XYQ is accelerating its growth. It blows away all my expectation.
There is also an important news on TX2, the most important game in NTES's upcoming game. The following is the semi-official announcement:
TX2 had started small scaled closed beta from 2/29/2008. Now they are going to enter into large scale closed beta on 5/4/2008. In addition, they will enter "open beta" in June.
For most "free-to-play" games, open beta usually means commercial operation.
Thus, I will say TX2 will enter commercial operation either on June or July.
So far, from what I observes, TX2 had addressed most of my concerns. I am pretty certain that it will be a block buster for NTES.
Friday, April 11, 2008
My last post relates to Sohu’s advertising market can be found here:
This is old news. But it still might be valuable.
On 3/12/2008, Sohu’s CEO gave an interview. There are several interesting things that deserved to be written. The interview in Chinese can be found here:
Highlight of the interview:
1. Sohu’s Olympics strategy just getting started. We haven’t really seen its fruit yet.
2. He hopes Sogou will really shine in 2009 and becomes the third legs of Sohu (besides advertising and games).
3. Olympics give Sohu a opportunity to grab internet users away from their competitors. Olympics is not an end by a start. That is why when a lot of people say that Sohu’s brand advertising will go down after Olympics, he feels it will be exactly the opposite.
4. Target of Sohu is when China’s internet population reaches 500 millions, Sohu will be China’s top 2 or 3 internet companies (not just China’s portals, but among all internet companies in China).
5. He is confident that by the next quarter (before the Olympics), Sohu will generate more revenue than Sina.
6. Except for online gameing (TLBB is in
I am mostly impressed by what he said on number 5. The wall street analysts are expecting Sina to generate revenue of 81.9M and Sohu to generate a revenue of 76.1M (from Yahoo finance site). He is not going to know how Sina does this quarter or next quarter. But for him to make a claim like that, Sohu must be doing extremely well so far this quarter as well as having good visibility going into next quarter. There might be a little bravado on his part, but I don’t think he would make that claim if he doesn’t think there are excellent chances of that happening.
Thursday, April 10, 2008
My last post on TD-SCDMA is as follows:
The following is another comparison site by Netease Tech department.
There are a lot of photos in this site. Not much new information from the last review by Netease. But it does have the cost structure in the table form. I will list the cost comparison between TD-SCDMA vs GSM in the following table:
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Caller = .4/min, Called = Free
Caller = .6/min, Called = .4/min
Caller = .6/min, Called = .4/min
.07 per 6 second
.07 per 6 second
Caller = .6/min, Called = Free
Caller = .9/min, Called = .6/min
.1 per 6 second
$28 for 150 minutes
$58 for 350 minutes
$88 for 600 minutes
$10 for 30MB
$5 for 10MB
$50 for 200MB
$20 for 50MB
$200 for 4GB
$100 for 800MB
$300 per 8G
$200 for 2GB
From the above table, the better service (TD-SCDMA) actually cost less than the existing and inferior service (GSM) for services common to both. In addition, for services that are unique to TD-SCDMA, the cost is extremely reasonable.
Considering how Chinese youth regards their mobile phones as status symbols, I am certain there will be a lot of demand for this service. Also considering that this is a brand new service, I am also certain that the handset makers are probably going to be conservative in producing the mobile phones. Thus, I think the supply will be limited.
From the review so far, this technology seems to be more mature than I originally thought. But several problem areas may start to emerge. I will list them out below:
1. Lack of coverage. This is to be expected at this early stage of network deployment.
2. Good voice but unstable video. As video requires more resource for the network, lack of network coverage may contribute to this. But other factors that may point to the fundamental deficiency of the TD-SCDMA may be involved. If China Mobile build out the network, and this problem still exist, we may have a problem.
3. Unstable coverage while moving. If there are insufficient coverage, as the caller or the called moved around, it went in and out of areas that have coverage, the result is of course unstable coverage. But if may also point to problems that is more fundamental. This is another area to be looked at.
4. Power consumption issue. There are conflicting report on this. But we know only a handful of companies have build handsets for this standard so far. Most of these companies are domestic and not very sophisticated in designing handsets. In addition, there are usually significant power saving between the 1st and 2nd generation handset design by the same company. I don’t know if the standard itself caused the power consumption issue. But it is probably going to take 1 year until the second generation handsets start to arrive before we can say with any certainty about the cause of this issue.
5. Good voice and video service but unstable internet browsing experience. This actually could be a problem that is difficult to solve. Again, have to keep track of further review that come out to see if this is a problem.
6. Nobody to call because nobody have the 3G service yet. Well, this is the chicken and egg question. This is really to be expected.
7. Only 6 handset makers and very little handset selections. Again, this is the chicken and egg question. This is to be expected.
8. Very little new ingenious services that uses the extra bandwidth. Since this is the start of 3G, this is to be expected. But there are another factor involved. If Chinese government allows its mobile operators such as China Mobile to be both the competitor and regulator, like what happed with the WVAS area, then there won’t be any new ingenious service. At this point, China Mobile and China Unicom serve as monopoly in the area of WVAS. As a result, there is no inventiveness. The small WVAS have to resort to junk emails, or porns to stay alive. Unless
9. People are waiting for the real 3G. It is possible that most people are waiting for the roll out of WCDMA and CDMA2000. This could be the big one. I don’t know about the psychic of average Chinese youth. Do they go after the latest fad or do they think TD-SCDMA is just a precursor to the real thing (WCDMA and CDMA2000).
In my mind, TD-SCDMA will either get 60% of the market share of
We will probably have to wait for a few months for more reviews to see how the trial goes. But so far, everything look good so far. That may mean we may be seeing a short trial period and roll out can be as soon as this summer. If that is the case, we are most likely seeing demand far exceeds supplies.
Finally, a kick ass TD-SCDMA phone. It is made by Lenovo. See the following two links for the video demonstrations.
The name of the phone is Lenovo Ideapad U8. It is still in prototype. The phone is just awesome. If TD-SCDMA solved all its technical and roll-out issues, there is no way the average Chinese youth won’t go after this handset.
Wednesday, April 9, 2008
My last post on the TD-SCDMA can be found here:
I am going to put some miscellaneous information about TD-SCDMA in this article.
From the following article:
China Mobile Communications, China Telecom and China Network Communications purchased 969M of TD-SCDMA equipment in 4Q07. ZTE accounts for 45.8% of total, Datang with 27.2% and TD tech with 14.9% of total.
A iPhone clone that is more iPhone. http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C11524/
How about an iPhone clone that can provide 3G services and have better camera than the iPhone? You think an “iPhone” that is even better than a real iPhone can sell in
From the following news: http://tech.sina.com.cn/t/2008-04-03/07202117436.shtml
China Mobile announced that they had already build 14119 base stations for TD-SCDMA. They said within the same 8 trial cities, they had build more infra-structure for TD-SCDMA in 300 days than they did for GSM in 10 years.
From the following site: http://shanghaiist.com/2008/04/01/china_rolls_out.php
One can see that the price of TD-SCDMA services are extremely competitive. If China Mobile keeps these prices and there are no show-stoppers in the trial, given how the young Chinese considering their mobile phones as status symbol, this thing is going to explode.
Finally, let me see how can SPRD take advantage of the coming roll-out of TD-SCDMA.
They have two chips that support TD-SCDMA. The first chip is SC8800D:
It can support GSM, GPRS, and TD-SCDMA. It has a maximum download speed of 384kbps and upload speed of 128kbps. It uses a 100MHz ARM processor core.
The second chip is SC8800H:
It can support GSM, GPRS, TD-SCDMA, and HSDPA. It has a maximum download speed of 1.6Mbps. It can support 5M pixel camera. It uses a 200MHz ARM processor core.
I believe the SC8800D is out on 2004 and the SC8800H is out on 2007. At this point, China Mobile’s trial is only for the 384kbps version. Thus, only the SC8800D will benefit. But the SC8800H will benefit as China Mobile rolls out the HSDPA version of TD-SCDMA in the future.
Tuesday, April 8, 2008
My last report on TD-SCDMA can be found here:
The review so far had been good. But I am sure there are negative report also. I found one and it can be found here:
It is in a newspaper called People’s Net Market Paper. I will translate the main point below.
TD-SCDMA has excellent voice quality. It is even better than the existing GSM.
There is a lot of coverage issues. There are a lot of areas that only have one or two bars. Some places doesn’t even have any bars. The calls are very unstable in places where the coverage is bad. There are places that one can’t even make a call successfully.
The reviewer made a video phone call. The quality is good. But there seem to be delay once a while. The download speed is very good. The reviewer can get a download speed up to 200kB/second (the advertised top speed is 385kB/second).
When it is stationary, the reviewer can have excellent video phone or video/TV programming. The TV volume is loud and clear for the TV programs. But when moving, such as in the subway or on the bus, the speed degrades badly. In a lot of cases, the connection will break.
But there is a very serious battery issue. After only 20 minutes of phone calls and after downloading several short video clips, it already spent half of the battery.
Some customers complained about the instability of the calls. Some calls gets disconnected. It seems like the instability of phone calls are the biggest issue.
From this article, it is hard to tell what caused the instability of the call. If it is the coverage issue, it is to be expected. It can be easily solved by adding more base stations. Mobile operators such as China Mobile are doing that any way. This is really not the issue of the standard itself and can be solved easily by adding more base stations to provide better coverage.
But if the instability is caused by the underlining technical deficiencies of the standard itself, then we will have a big problem. This then become a fundamental problem that no amount of additional infrastructure build can remedy.
It is hard to tell which is the case at this point. But during this early stage, the lack of coverage is to be expected.
Another problem is the power consumption issues. There seems to be conflicting reports on whether this is the issue. Even if it is, it is not clear whether the issue is caused by the standard itself or caused by the deficiency of the handset design. If it is the handset design, it will be solved easily by the future design optimizations of the handset companies. But if it is the technical deficiencies of the standard itself, it could present a very big problem.
At this point, we will probably have to wait for a couple of months of trials to see whether there are patterns emerge.
Monday, April 7, 2008
My last post on the TD-SCDMA can be found here:
Netease and Sohu both have reports on the TD-SCDMA. Sina is of course not going to be left out. For Sina’s case, they did a video review:
One can see TD-SCDMA in action in real time. Since this is only a 5 minutes review, this is not going to be a detailed review. But seeing a TD-SCDMA phone in action provides a lot of insight that a written review can’t.
In this video review, Sina’s tech reporter talked about the five advantages of TD-SCDMA phones over the existing 2G and 2.5G phones in China.
First, the phones are multi-standards. The caller can use TD-SCDMA or the existing 2G/2.5G services on the same phone.
Second, it provides high speed internet browsing. Compare to the existing 2G or 2.5G services, TD-SCDMA behave like a broadband service (borrowing the term used for ADSL or Cable Modem). The current version of TD-SCDMA can support up to 384kbps. Sina’s reporter of course went to www.sina.com.cn for demo in this review.
Third, it has video phone feature. In the demonstration, the quality seems very nice.
Fourth, much higher multi-media capability. Now, when one wants to watch TV programs, video clips, or sounds, one doesn’t have to wait forever to download the files. With real time streaming, one can watch these multimedia programs in real time. Again, the demonstration of watching a movie in real time is very nice. The quality of the movie seems to be very nice.
Fifth, the high speed allows for high quality JAVA applications. Sina’s reporter uses the example of keeping track of stocks and stock technical analysis (in real time) as an example.
Finally, the reporter also talked about the extremely competitive pricing of TD-SCDMA announced by China Mobile.
Overall, I will have to say this review gives a glowing report for TD-SCDMA.
On a related subject that I had been keeping track of, the subject of the intense
There weren’t anything technical about this report. But one can see that Sina is really starting to behave like a CNN or a MSNBC. Sina has really transforming itself from a text based company to a video/TV/multimedia based company.
My last post on the subject of portal’s video war can be found here:
At this point, Sina seems to be doing the best job. But with Sohu’s Olympic initiative, it is going to be a war between the two.
Friday, April 4, 2008
My last post on the TD-SCDMA can be found here:
After Netease did a review for the new 3G service trial, Sohu will of course not going to be left out of this. A Sohu tech reporter did a three part reviews as well. I will give a brief translation.
On 4/1/2008, he did the first part of the review:
This is the first day that TD-SCDMA can be tested. Most people this reporter called haven’t got the new features yet. Not much can be said in this report. The only thing is that this reporter think the quality of the voice call is excellent.
In the second report, it is probably later on in the same day, 4/1/2008, he talked about a little bit of more features:
In this report, he talked about using the video phone feature. It seems like the quality is very good. He is even able to see the background of the other caller clearly. He also talked about the video phone feature when both caller and receiver are traveling with speed. He was on a bus traveling about 80km/hour (about 50 miles/hour) while the other caller is in the subway traveling about 80km/hour (50miles/hr), there are degradation to the voice and video quality of the call. But overall, it is acceptable.
Out of 20 video phone calls he made that day, one can’t receive the video image. But that is probably more to do with the problem with the mobile handset of the received caller.
He also talked about the battery issue. For that day, that reporter made 20 voice calls, 20 video calls, 10 short messages, and 10 minutes worth of WAP. Afterward, the battery is virtually out. The reporter felt it is very battery consuming.
The third report is based on his experience on the same day (4/1/2008) also.
In this report, he talked about his experience on the fastest train in the world,
He arrived at the
Overall, he felt the quality of various services for the TD-SCDMA is excellent. But there are coverage issues. There are some problem inside the hotel, inside the subway and in
Also, he already receive his first SMS junk mail. (Remember the issue with FMCN, I guess SMS junk mail is really bad if people already start to receive junk mail on the first day of a trial).
In summary, Sohu’s report seems to suggest two possible problems. First, he thinks there might be power consumption problem. Second, there might be coverage problem.
But from the amount of phone calls he made, I am not quite sure this is the problem. If I made the same amount of calls, it will probably drain the battery of my mobile phone also. In addition, usually the first generation handsets are electricity hogs. They are usually corrected in a few months. With better handset design (which is not an issue for the standard itself) and larger battery capacity, this doesn’t seem like a problem.
The second problem he mentioned, the coverage problem, is really to be expected. It is going to take China Mobile and China Unicom a few years to install tens of thousands of base stations all over the country. There will definitely be coverage problem at this early stage.
Interestingly, he didn’t mention the problem pointed out by Netease’s review, the instability of mobile internet browsing. That actually could be a bigger problem. We will just have to keep track of different reviews to see if unstable internet browsing is epidemic.
Finally, I think this review give me the impression that TD-SCDMA is more matured than I thought originally. It seems they had solved one of a supposed weakness, performance when one or both of callers are traveling at high speed.
As far, both reviews give me a lot of hope that speedy expansion of 3G is possible in
But we need to keep track of more reviews. There might just be some issues out there that nobody thought of that might come back to haunt us.
Thursday, April 3, 2008
My last post on
On 3/26/2008, Netease Tech. department did a review on the new service. I believe it is the first such review. The article is as follows:
My brief translation is as follows. The article had a lot of pictures. I would not copy the pictures here.
Starting April this year, China Mobile will provide TD-SCDMA trials on 9 cities in
The cost of the service is video phone of 0.6 RMB/minute and voice phone of 0.4 RMB/minute. The monthly service is 10 RMB/month for 30MB (?) of data, 50 RMB/month for 200MB of data, 200 RMB/month for 4G of data, and 300 RMB for 8G of data.
The SIM card for the TD-SCDMA is different than that of other standards. They are not inter-changeable.
First, Netease conducted voice phone calls. They found the voice quality very clear. As clear as the GSM network. There were no voice spike or fade or any other interruptions. For this test, they can only do the stationary voice calls. They will conduct the voice call when traveling in high speed in the future.
(My note. Phone call during high speed travel is one of the more problematic areas for cellular phones. Too bad Netease is not able to test this aspect.)
Next, Netease tested the video phone option. They found the image to be very clear. The video refresh rate is about 5 to 8 frame/seconds. It is less than regular TV (30 frame per second), but they found it acceptable for this purpose.
Next, they test the TD-SCDMA’s internet capability. At this point, they can support two capabilities, TD-CMWAP and TD-CMNET. At this point, the data rate supported by TD-CMWAP can be found by GPRS/EDGE. Therefore, it won’t be the selling point for TD-SCDMA. However, TD-CMNET is another story.
To use TD-CMNET over the existing 2G or 2.5G is almost like the difference of using ADSL (broadband) vs. 56k analog modem dial-up for desktop internet browsing.
Of course, Netease went to www.163.com for internet browsing test. They found it much faster than the existing GPRS/EDGE. It only take 3 to 4 second before the page start to load. The browsing afterward is extremely fast also.
At this point, the maximum data rate is 384kbps. They also heard that the next (half) generation TD-HSDPA 3.5G shall be here soon.
Next, Netease tested the TV viewing. It only takes 3 to 4 seconds before the TV program showing up. The quality is excellent. It has the about the same quality as the watching TV at home. The sound from the speaker phone is very good also.
In addition, one can use TD-SCDMA to perform remote control or remote surveillance functions. For example, to check the traffic condition of one’s travel destination. Or use TD-SCDMA phone to control the computer at home or home appliances.
They also watch an NBA game on the phone and found the quality excellent.
But they did found a few minor problem. They found, at the location where they done the test, the connection to the internet is not very stable. It disconnects a few times. They hope this is just a phenomenon during the trial.
In addition, they think the next generation TD-HSDPA shouldn’t be too far away. The license to operate TD-HSDPA had been recently granted to a few phone manufacturers. It shouldn’t be very long for this new service to come out.
Finally, they predict TD-SCDMA will be offered to the general public in June this year.
This concludes the review by Netease Tech department. From the review, it looks good. While I am certain there will be a lot of teething problems in the next two years, I believe Chinese users will tolerate them as long as they are not show stoppers. Except for the unstable internet connection, there doesn’t seem to be any show stoppers. We have to however, keep an eye on that as more reviews come in.
If TD-SCDMA can really get into commercial operation by June this year, it will really be great news to equipment manufactures such as SPRD and WVAS content providers such as SINA and KONG.
Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Just want to talk a little bit about how Sohu is going to monetize its search engine, Sogou.
My last post that is sogou related is here:
It has a two prong strategies. First, it is going to use all of Sohu’s properties to sell Sogou. See the following web site:
If a company buy a key word on Sogou, it will not only be buying a presence on the search engine, sogou, it will also buying a presence in other Sohu properties such as emails, blogs, portal channels (news, sports, etc.), etc.
In addition, on 3/14/2008, it also start a service called Sogou 800. See the following web page:
If a company become Sogou’s consumer and buy a key word, and when an internet user search on Sogou using that key word, that company information will of course be part of the search result. Nothing different here from other search engines.
But now, there will be a little green telephone sign next to the search result. The internet user can then click on that sign and give sogou his or her phone number. Sogou then will connect between that internet user with the customer service department of that small company. The first 10 minutes of phone service will be paid for by Sogou.
It is an interesting service. I have no idea how effective will this service promote Sogou.
But if it is effective, Sohu will incur some additional expenses in return for being a player in
It is what a hit game like TLBB can do for Sohu. Now, Sohu makes tons of cashes from that game. These extra money enable Sohu to spend a lot of money to promote her other services.
For Netease, I think it is dumb for them to get into search now. But for Sohu, I think they might still have a chance.
In addition to the above two strategies, their Olympics connection might give them a head up during Olympics. Search is a force of habit. If they can convert enough users to use Sogou during the Olympics, those users might just keep on using Sogou afterward.
Finally, Sogou might have a secret weapon in its disposal. It is just purely a guess on my part right now. If I have some more time, I will probably talk more about this “secret weapon” in the future.
Tuesday, April 1, 2008
My last post that is Yodao related is here:
On 3/6/2008, Netease started to monetizing its new search engine, Yodao. See the following link:
From now until 3/30/2008, it also has a promotion where if a small company can get 100 dollars in promotion money when they put in 1 dollar. See the following:
Yadao hadn’t done much and I don’t think it is even close in popularity to the top four search engine yet. When Sohu started its Sogou search engine, it waited for a long time before it started to monetize its search engine.
I doubt this will add anything of any significance to Netease’s revenue. I hope I am wrong, but it is just too late to get into search engines in